1. Exquisite Tweets from @EmilyRCWilson, @seotte

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    Here is a classic in-progress translation struggle. I am working on "Oedipus Tyrannos". Creon says he is not, or not yet, τοσοῦτον ἠπατημένος as to want anything other than good things that benefit him.

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    Emily Wilson

    These two lines are, I'm finding, really tough to get into an idiomatic but viably-serious-verse-drama-register iambic pentameter couplet. Specifically, do I want him to say, "I'm not kidding myself"? Or is that too slangy? Or, "I'm not yet so deluded", or is that too stiff?

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    Emily Wilson

    To what extent is Creon suggesting that this kind of delusion is normal, or abnormal? That's not clear, and it makes a big difference to the rhetoric here. Are most people, in Creon's eyes, idiots who want useless things like the pomp of the Presidency? Or is it unusual?

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    Emily Wilson

    "I'm not so blinded" is kind of nice, but not usable because it introduces a metaphor that matters too much in this play to add in when it's not there.

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    Emily Wilson

    I probably have to use delusion or deluded, but I haven't worked out quite how yet. I have spent most of the morning on this problem and I am not done.

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    Emily Wilson

    The second line is just as tough, because the multiple negatives sound really awkward in English every way I've tried so far.

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  2. I quite like not yet so deluded, it doesn’t sound stiff to me!

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    seotte

    saskia

  3. I think I'll keep deluded. Getting there. But I wanted to post about the struggle, because I know my comparative threads juxtaposing bits of printed translations risk presenting the work as if it sprang from the head of Zeus fully-formed, and it very often doesn't.

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