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“The social equivalent of liver failure” - http://bit.ly/gC9Lvx #facebook

#1 12:35am Jan 11th 2011 via web

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@kellan All true, but the same arguments have been around for a while (cf. @zephoria) and turns out the systems are still useful.

#2 12:37am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to kellan

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@tomcoates @kellan know what my favorite thing about @Quora is? the ability 2 have multiple biographies for yourself depending on the topic.

#3 12:41am Jan 11th 2011 via Tweetie for Mac in reply to tomcoates

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@tomcoates @kellan Maybe it's less that the systems are useful, more that a better systems would be too complicated (a design problem).

#4 12:50am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to tomcoates

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@fraying @kellan That's it in a nutshell. So far Facebook has, self-evidently, hit on the best current balance of function and ease of use.

#5 12:51am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to fraying

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@fraying @kellan Or at least, it had done, and now has sufficient momentum and lock-in to keep people with it.

#6 12:52am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to fraying

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@fraying @kellan If we want a more intelligent social network, we'll have to find a way to build it with nuance without being hard to use

#7 12:52am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to fraying

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@fraying @kellan My suspicion, though, is that people will eventually just use different social networks for different things.

#8 12:53am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to fraying

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@tomcoates @kellan Yup. Or put another way: our existing real world communities will just evolve their own digital places for us.

#9 12:56am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to tomcoates

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@tomcoates @fraying @kellan using different networks for different things was the previous norm (flickr for pix, linkedin for jobs etc)

#10 1:05am Jan 11th 2011 via web in reply to tomcoates

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.@tomcoates I sometimes wonder what my computer would think my social network is. I bet it'd be different than what I think it is.

#11 1:09am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to tomcoates

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@kevinmarks @tomcoates @fraying @kellan Isn't that what diaspora is supposed to do? Also, different media per different expiration times.

#12 1:10am Jan 11th 2011 via web in reply to kevinmarks

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@kevinmarks @tomcoates @fraying @kellan By that I mean ie Instagram for daily blip interest vs Flickr for longer archival use.

#13 1:10am Jan 11th 2011 via web in reply to kevinmarks

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@kevinmarks ... and that's a silly way to compartmentalize life. I have social circles based things more important than file formats.

#14 1:13am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to kevinmarks

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@fraying @kevinmarks @kellan @tomcoates given that, how do we build useful social networks? Two ways: create shared vocab (facebook, et al)

#15 1:16am Jan 11th 2011 via web in reply to fraying

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@fraying true; I was thinking more of social objects as nexuses - dailybooth and flickr are different objects with the same file format

#16 1:17am Jan 11th 2011 via Seesmic Desktop in reply to fraying

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@fraying @kevinmarks @kellan @tomcoates or, create distinct tools that communicate / interoperate (email, thisiswhatwebfingerisfor, etc)

#17 1:18am Jan 11th 2011 via web in reply to fraying

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@blaine @kevinmarks @kellan @tomcoates Basically I want to stop having to tell computers who my friends are. Eventually, they'll just know.

#18 1:19am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to blaine

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@fraying yes, that was the great idea behind google buzz's friend selection...

#19 1:21am Jan 11th 2011 via Seesmic Desktop in reply to fraying

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@fraying ... but the same is true of everyone else I know. So this is why facebook works, for now, because there is no choice. Easy!

#20 1:21am Jan 11th 2011 via Nambu in reply to fraying

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@kevinmarks Yes, well, sometimes you have to do something badly before you do it right.

#21 1:21am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to kevinmarks

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@blaine @fraying @kevinmarks @kellan I feel the edge of a federated social networking model creeping out in the conversation here.

#22 1:22am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to blaine

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@blaine @fraying @kevinmarks @kellan ... not sure I'm terribly interested in it as a ddiscussion ...

#23 1:23am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to blaine

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@fraying see Arno Penzias (head of R&D at AT&T; nobel laureat) on "setting up to fail" as method. @kevinmarks

#24 1:23am Jan 11th 2011 via web in reply to fraying

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@fraying @blaine @kevinmarks @kellan Not 100% sure on that either. Difficult to get a computer to work out if you've had a break-up or row

#25 1:23am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to fraying

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@tomcoates lol. Well, it has to be said - I'd love it if there were some other answer to the <FacebookIsPoopy> problem.

#26 1:24am Jan 11th 2011 via Nambu in reply to tomcoates

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My phone already knows more about my social network than I do. (@kevinmarks @kellan @tomcoates)

#27 1:25am Jan 11th 2011 via web

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@blaine There is! Don't use it. I don't!

#28 1:25am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to blaine

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@tomcoates Agreed. Also, this conversation is showing the limits of discussing anything on Twitter.

#29 1:26am Jan 11th 2011 via web in reply to tomcoates

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@tomcoates neither do I - but the same thing is true for twitter/flickr/delicious/etc, and I do use those (but don't necessarily want to)

#30 1:26am Jan 11th 2011 via Nambu in reply to tomcoates

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@fraying @kevinmarks @kellan Did you see that Wallop project from Microsoft a few years ago? I think @lilich did it.

#31 1:27am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for Mac in reply to fraying

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@tomcoates @fraying @kellan I love this tweet-thread. I wonder if new social networks that try to beat Facebook won't also use FB's APIs.

#32 1:28am Jan 11th 2011 via Twitter for iPhone in reply to tomcoates

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@fraying @kevinmarks @kellan @tomcoates my thoughts on this subject from last year, fwiw: http://bit.ly/htiSLA

#33 1:29am Jan 11th 2011 via Nambu in reply to fraying

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@fraying the apps on your phone do; the phone doesn't really have a gestalt though. Android merges phone + chat + email for more people...

#34 1:30am Jan 11th 2011 via Seesmic Desktop in reply to fraying

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@kevinmarks That's just now. I thought we were talking about the future.

#35 1:39am Jan 11th 2011 via web in reply to kevinmarks

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@kevinmarks I totally don't care who does it. I just know it's coming.

#36 1:42am Jan 11th 2011 via web in reply to kevinmarks

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@fraying the point of the standards stuff @blane + many otherrs have been on about the last few years is to make it not matter who does it

#37 1:47am Jan 11th 2011 via Seesmic Desktop in reply to fraying

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