1. Exquisite Tweets from @lifewinning, @jkriss, @dryan, @michalmigurski, @cydharrell, @hondanhon, @npseaver, @blaine, @JulesPolonetsky, @hunter_owens

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    I think there's a typo on their "the problem" section Anil because something seems missing

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    Ingrid Burrington

  2. I want to be optimistic about this, I really do. But it feels too much like tech folks trying to “save the world” again, centering themselves and ignoring the critical, deep scholarship and experience from outside their orbit. nyti.ms/2GJoKHg

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    jkriss

    Jesse Kriss

  3. That. That’s the sentiment I felt but couldn’t articulate.

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    dryan

    Dan Ryan

  4. Plus, who says that the people who broke it should be first in line to fix it?

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    jkriss

    Jesse Kriss

  5. If they're serious about lobbying, finding others equally worried about algorithm-driven propaganda, and aiming to get the intelligence community on board I could see this having an impact. /me imagines the FBI going full-Dem in about 25 years…

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    michalmigurski

    Michal Migurski

  6. Can we at *least* make them read Ursula Franklin, E. F. Schumacher, and @langdonw?

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    jkriss

    Jesse Kriss

    The lobbying part is the most interesting, I think

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    jkriss

    Jesse Kriss

  7. Yeah. They'll need to find an angle that isn't "ethics" for that to work, ideally one that has a warm-bodied constituency.

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    michalmigurski

    Michal Migurski

  8. yeah, I'm a little worried that this is being done with the same form of earnestness that led to the problem in the first place.., I do wish it well, - but maybe involving different types of people even...you know?

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    cydharrell

    Cyd Harrell

  9. I agree! I think that part of my doubt comes from Tristan Harris's name on it. He seems like someone looking for a issue to ride, and I'm not hearing much about wholesale filter bubble manipulation here.

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    michalmigurski

    Michal Migurski

  10. yeah, the focus on addiction & kids is not well-informed from what I can tell.

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    cydharrell

    Cyd Harrell

  11. It seems like a relatively narrow formuation of the problem.

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    jkriss

    Jesse Kriss

  12. I have complex personal and professional opinions and emotions about this.

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    hondanhon

    dan hon

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    Jesse Kriss

  14. I thought quite hard about that tweet and it’s very sincere.

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    hondanhon

    dan hon

  15. I’ve got this kind of thing listed as one of the topics for my next fieldwork grant (on the attention stuff). Definitely interesting to see where they do and don’t share frames of reference with their former employers.

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    npseaver

    Nick Seaver

    Like the difference between “companies think your attention is like a commodity!” and “it is, and they’re stealing it from you!” Or, similarly, the addiction stuff—behaviorism on both sides, here.

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    npseaver

    Nick Seaver

  16. not to repeat myself but twitter.com/lifewinning/st…

    Ingrid Burrington @lifewinning
    I think there's a typo on their "the problem" section Anil because something seems missing

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    lifewinning

    Ingrid Burrington

  17. The proof for me will be if they lobby for alternatives that are Actually Good, or if they simply lobby for the equivalent of "Smoking Can Kill You" labelling on the monopolies.

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    blaine

    Blaine Cook

  18. They are donating all the stock option profits they made because these were ill gotten gains. Right?

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    JulesPolonetsky

    Jules Polonetsky