1. Exquisite Tweets from @fling, @beep, @globalmoxie, @bryanrieger, @grigs, @ktamura, @markboulton, @colly

    globalmoxieCollected by globalmoxie

    anyone that claims "responsive design" as a best practice clearly has never actually tried to support multiple contexts or devices.

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    Brian Fling

    creating great contextual experiences has absolutely nothing to do with markup or css.

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    Brian Fling

  2. @fling As someone working on a sizable responsive redesign, those strike me as fairly broad strokes, Brian. Care to go into more detail?

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    Ethan Marcotte

  3. responsive design seems like the easy hack that attempts to avoid solving the much harder but more thoughtful solution

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    Brian Fling

  4. @beep @fling Me, I think responsive design is important tool, but often: mobile apps/sites need mobile content, not just rejiggered layout.

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    Josh Clark

    @fling Agreed, but sometimes a necessary hack. Useful transitional step when people are trapped, eg, by their CMS into single HTML page.

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    Josh Clark

  5. @beep underlying components and content will also often need to change - responsive design by itself isn't enough. /cc @fling

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    Bryan Rieger

    @fling it has it's place, but it's by no means the final solution. 100% agree that the rest of the process is *much* harder. /cc @beep

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    Bryan Rieger

  6. @bryanrieger Still, there’s more overlap than these “mobile web vs. responsive design” discussions imply. Not a fan of absolutes, me.

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    Ethan Marcotte

  7. btw, we had this debate five years ago and "responsive design" didn't win... but of course only a few were paying attention.

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    Brian Fling

  8. @fling five years ago media queries were entirely academic.

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    Bryan Rieger

  9. @fling I used to agree w/ you, but I now recognize @beep, @scottjehl, and Riegers, I realize they aren't shying away from tougher problems.

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    Jason Grigsby, ☁4

    @fling people start working on how to do RWD mobile first. can they pull it off? my guess is yes. Is it best in every case? no.

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    Jason Grigsby, ☁4

  10. The struggle will be getting beyond merly "regifting" the desktop Internet experience for mobile. / cc @fling @beep

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    Kevin Tamura

    After all wew have two other screens, tablets and tv, with vastly different contexts we to consider. //@fling @beep

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    Kevin Tamura

  11. @ktamura I honestly don't get the confusion. RWD isn't design for mobile. It's adaptive layout design. That's it. No? /cc @fling @beep

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    Mark Boulton

    @ktamura It's making sure your layout doesn't look crap on diff. sized screens. Nothing more. Or am I missing something? /cc @fling @beep

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    Mark Boulton

  12. @markboulton 100% agree with "RWD isn't design for mobile. It's adaptive layout design." Put that on a billboard. /cc @ktamura @fling @beep

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    Simon Collison

  13. @markboulton a lot of the debate goes back to the "one web" vs "mobile web". RWD has become the straw man for one web. //@fling @beep

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    Kevin Tamura

  14. @markboulton RWD assumes that media queries will correctly adapt content to browsers. which it doesn't //@beep @ktamura @StuRobson @colly

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    Brian Fling

  15. @fling Okay, perhaps I misunderstood what you meant by “adapt content.” My early RWD examples are focused on layout, not content.

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    Ethan Marcotte

  16. @beep sorry, you are absolutely right. I think I conflated the two.

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    Brian Fling