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    Is there a word for things that have no immediate obvious benefit but work in the long term and/or at scale?

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    Tristan Ferne

    ...like co2 reduction or linked data

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    Tristan Ferne

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  3. @tristanf 'public merit' goods, sort of? http://www.bized.co.uk/virtual/economy/policy/tools/government/gexpth2.htm

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    Chris Thorne

  4. @tristanf is 'strategic' the right word? So it may seem counter-intuitive in the short term, with no obvious benefit, but it's a long view

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    Paul Rissen

    @tristanf other thing this reminds me of is Braudel's 'la longue durée' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longue_dur%C3%A9e

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    Paul Rissen

  5. It's just that it seems a lot of the things we try to get done in the BBC are <new word required>

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    Tristan Ferne

  6. @tristanf "speculative" in the sense of research;
    "forward-thinking" in a true sense, sadly the term has been pulped into mush.

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    atl

    Thought Cheerleader

  7. @derivadow ah, so I meant things that are done for the long-term/scale benefit but have no obvious short-term benefits

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    Tristan Ferne

  8. @tristanf for stuff whose value expands with connected there's obviously network effect

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    Michael Smethurst

    @tristanf but that doesn't really cover stuff whose value increases with participation but isn't primarily about connections (democracy?)

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    Michael Smethurst

    @tristanf which is more a participation effect. so i guess you need a superset of the 2?!?

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    Michael Smethurst

  9. @tristanf closest i've found is "merit good"... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merit_good

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    chris sizemore

  10. @onpause Interesting. "When consumed, a merit good creates positive externalities..."

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    Tristan Ferne

    @onpause "...(an externality being a third party/spill-over effect which arises from the consumption or production of the good/service)"

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    Tristan Ferne

  11. @tristanf hhmm, cooperative is my best shot. he said, updating his avatar (whilst sticking resolutely with the stone rose tshirt theme :-) )

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    Michael Smethurst