1. Exquisite Tweets from @kellan, @tomcoates, @arielwaldman, @fraying, @kevinmarks, @MJ, @blaine, @buster

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    kellan

  2. @kellan All true, but the same arguments have been around for a while (cf. @zephoria) and turns out the systems are still useful.

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    tomcoates

    Tom Coates

  3. @tomcoates @kellan know what my favorite thing about @Quora is? the ability 2 have multiple biographies for yourself depending on the topic.

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    arielwaldman

    Ariel Waldman

  4. @tomcoates @kellan Maybe it's less that the systems are useful, more that a better systems would be too complicated (a design problem).

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    fraying

    Derek Powazek

  5. @fraying @kellan That's it in a nutshell. So far Facebook has, self-evidently, hit on the best current balance of function and ease of use.

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    tomcoates

    Tom Coates

    @fraying @kellan Or at least, it had done, and now has sufficient momentum and lock-in to keep people with it.

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    tomcoates

    Tom Coates

    @fraying @kellan If we want a more intelligent social network, we'll have to find a way to build it with nuance without being hard to use

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    tomcoates

    Tom Coates

    @fraying @kellan My suspicion, though, is that people will eventually just use different social networks for different things.

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    tomcoates

    Tom Coates

  6. @tomcoates @kellan Yup. Or put another way: our existing real world communities will just evolve their own digital places for us.

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    fraying

    Derek Powazek

  7. @tomcoates @fraying @kellan using different networks for different things was the previous norm (flickr for pix, linkedin for jobs etc)

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    kevinmarks

    Kevin Marks

  8. .@tomcoates I sometimes wonder what my computer would think my social network is. I bet it'd be different than what I think it is.

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    fraying

    Derek Powazek

  9. @kevinmarks @tomcoates @fraying @kellan Isn't that what diaspora is supposed to do? Also, different media per different expiration times.

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    MJ

    @Mj

    @kevinmarks @tomcoates @fraying @kellan By that I mean ie Instagram for daily blip interest vs Flickr for longer archival use.

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    MJ

    @Mj

  10. @kevinmarks ... and that's a silly way to compartmentalize life. I have social circles based things more important than file formats.

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    fraying

    Derek Powazek

  11. @fraying @kevinmarks @kellan @tomcoates given that, how do we build useful social networks? Two ways: create shared vocab (facebook, et al)

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    blaine

    Blaine Cook

  12. @fraying true; I was thinking more of social objects as nexuses - dailybooth and flickr are different objects with the same file format

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    kevinmarks

    Kevin Marks

  13. @fraying @kevinmarks @kellan @tomcoates or, create distinct tools that communicate / interoperate (email, thisiswhatwebfingerisfor, etc)

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    blaine

    Blaine Cook

  14. @blaine @kevinmarks @kellan @tomcoates Basically I want to stop having to tell computers who my friends are. Eventually, they'll just know.

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    fraying

    Derek Powazek

  15. @fraying yes, that was the great idea behind google buzz's friend selection...

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    kevinmarks

    Kevin Marks

  16. @fraying ... but the same is true of everyone else I know. So this is why facebook works, for now, because there is no choice. Easy!

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    blaine

    Blaine Cook

  17. @kevinmarks Yes, well, sometimes you have to do something badly before you do it right.

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    fraying

    Derek Powazek

  18. @blaine @fraying @kevinmarks @kellan I feel the edge of a federated social networking model creeping out in the conversation here.

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    tomcoates

    Tom Coates

    @blaine @fraying @kevinmarks @kellan ... not sure I'm terribly interested in it as a ddiscussion ...

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    tomcoates

    Tom Coates

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  20. @fraying @blaine @kevinmarks @kellan Not 100% sure on that either. Difficult to get a computer to work out if you've had a break-up or row

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    tomcoates

    Tom Coates

  21. @tomcoates lol. Well, it has to be said - I'd love it if there were some other answer to the <FacebookIsPoopy> problem.

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    blaine

    Blaine Cook

  22. My phone already knows more about my social network than I do. (@kevinmarks @kellan @tomcoates)

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    fraying

    Derek Powazek

  23. @tomcoates Agreed. Also, this conversation is showing the limits of discussing anything on Twitter.

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    fraying

    Derek Powazek

  24. @tomcoates neither do I - but the same thing is true for twitter/flickr/delicious/etc, and I do use those (but don't necessarily want to)

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    blaine

    Blaine Cook

  25. @fraying @kevinmarks @kellan Did you see that Wallop project from Microsoft a few years ago? I think @lilich did it.

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    tomcoates

    Tom Coates

  26. @tomcoates @fraying @kellan I love this tweet-thread. I wonder if new social networks that try to beat Facebook won't also use FB's APIs.

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    buster

    Buster Benson

  27. @fraying the apps on your phone do; the phone doesn't really have a gestalt though. Android merges phone + chat + email for more people...

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    kevinmarks

    Kevin Marks

  28. @kevinmarks That's just now. I thought we were talking about the future.

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    fraying

    Derek Powazek

    @kevinmarks I totally don't care who does it. I just know it's coming.

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    fraying

    Derek Powazek

  29. @fraying the point of the standards stuff @blane + many otherrs have been on about the last few years is to make it not matter who does it

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    kevinmarks

    Kevin Marks