Frustrated by tweet transience; they’re lost forever and undiscoverable so quickly it’s almost a crime. A design flaw, and a shame.
2:58pm Dec 16th 2010 via TweetDeck
@jontangerine A design flaw? That's like saying in-person communications are a design flaw. Lost forever and undiscoverable.
3:02pm Dec 16th 2010 via Twitter Web Client in reply to jontangerine
@jontangerine search doesn't turn up what you're looking for? And some would argue that's BY design, and not a flaw. Favoriting helps :)
3:03pm Dec 16th 2010 via Echofon in reply to jontangerine
Jeff Byrnes 🚰
@jontangerine Google is better at finding lost tweets than Twitter. Doesn't make sense to me either.
3:04pm Dec 16th 2010 via Tweetie for Mac in reply to jontangerine
@snookca I completly disagree. When we speak we don't expect persistence.
3:06pm Dec 16th 2010 via TweetDeck in reply to snookca
FWIW, I realise their are ways to manually have tweets persist, but who can anticipate what may be valuable or important?
3:07pm Dec 16th 2010 via TweetDeck
@jontangerine But that's the Web, right? It all goes away eventually. Btw, have you seen Momento? momentoapp.com
3:06pm Dec 16th 2010 via Tweetie for Mac in reply to jontangerine
I archive tweets. Most are noise. I know this. :) However, I still want to keep them. I was trying to find a tweet by @mager from late 2009.
3:09pm Dec 16th 2010 via TweetDeck
@jontangerine always wondered why older tweets were accessible individually but not via twitter profiles/search eg bit.ly/iiYiRA
3:16pm Dec 16th 2010 via TweetDeck in reply to jontangerine
Dr Cole Henley
@jontangerine Ha. I guess what makes it frustrating is that if you know the URL, you can get the tweet. It's just ... finding the URL!
3:17pm Dec 16th 2010 via Tweetie for Mac in reply to jontangerine
@cole007 If you have the time and inclination pongsocket.com/tweetnest does a great job of archiving tweets. /cc @jontangerine
3:20pm Dec 16th 2010 via Tweetie for Mac in reply to cole007
@jontangerine Why not adjust your expectations? On a philosophical level, should all online communications be permanent and archived?
3:24pm Dec 16th 2010 via Nambu in reply to jontangerine
@snookca data we create with web apps should be retrievable. The principle is #mydatanotyours. Too much to expect?
3:41pm Dec 16th 2010 via TweetDeck in reply to snookca
@jontangerine @snookca: Our expectations regarding data are tied to our relationship with the web — right, privilege, or something else?
4:34pm Dec 16th 2010 via Twitter Web Client in reply to jontangerine
@jontangerine @snookca: In other words, where does the expectation come from? I believe we should own our data, but we need to define 'ours'
4:36pm Dec 16th 2010 via Twitter Web Client in reply to jontangerine
)@danrubin @jontangerine @snookca idk man, I'm paying a lot of money to create this data (iPhone, data plan, internet access, computer)
4:38pm Dec 16th 2010 via TweetDeck
@jontangerine It's your data but not your service. If you want to keep your data, you're responsible for how. /cc @danrubin #mydatanotyours
4:39pm Dec 16th 2010 via Nambu in reply to jontangerine
@snookca: If that's the case, companies like Twitter need to allow us access to our data so we can archive it ourselves. /cc @jontangerine
4:40pm Dec 16th 2010 via Twitter Web Client in reply to snookca
To cap off the original thought: Tweets are available via the permanent URL. They should also be retrievable via a specific enough search.
5:06pm Dec 16th 2010 via TweetDeck
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