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    Rewatch The Empire Strikes Back and I think it's apparent that there was no other choice for Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi, given the events of The Force Awakens.

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    Bryan Young

    The entire premise of The Empire Strikes Back is that Luke Skywalker can sense Han and Leia in danger before it happens across the galaxy and drops everything to save them.

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    Bryan Young

    Which makes the biggest question in The Force Awakens, to me, "Why didn't Luke save Han?"

    Not Snoke, not Rey's parents, nothing. Why did Luke Skywalker let Han Solo die?

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    Bryan Young

    Luke is the central mystery of The Force Awakens. The opening sentence of the crawl is "Luke Skywalker has vanished." The closing shot is Rey having found him. The film is begging us to ask these questions about Luke.

    Why are we getting sidetracked by Snoke and Rey's parents?

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    Bryan Young

    Because of Empire and The Force Awakens, I don't think Rian Johnson COULD have done anything else with Luke Skywalker and have it make sense. There were slight variations that could have been made, sure, but the broad strokes of what Johnson gave us are pretty much inevitable.

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    Bryan Young

    I expected Luke to toss the saber the first time I saw the film. That's his thing. I've been on the "Luke is turning to non-violence" bandwagon for a while. But I was furious the first time I heard him say, "Where's Han?" BUT! I realized there had to be a reason for it...

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    Bryan Young

    My patience paid off in what I find one of the most heartfelt and stunning moments in the film: when Rey realizes that Luke has cut himself off from the Force.

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    Bryan Young

    Here we have the single most powerful Force user in the galaxy forced to cut himself off of every instinct he has for fear he'll do the galaxy more harm than good. From Luke's perspective, this abstinence of the Force is heroic. Another Jedi purge becomes impossible.

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    Bryan Young

    The perspective of the audience hasn't been as sympathetic. But this is also one of the central themes of The Last Jedi: that we can all perceive the exact same thing in a different way.

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    Bryan Young

    I'm not just talking about the Rashomon sequence (which I thought was brilliant filmmaking), but the vision Rey and Kylo shared and discussed on the elevator. They saw the same thing and came to different conclusions about what that outcome would be.

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    Bryan Young

    "Always in motion is the future," Master Yoda would say.

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    Bryan Young

    But let's talk about the Rashomon sequence. Because, to me, this is what made Luke the LEAST Luke and the MOST Luke and the more I watch it, the more heartbreaking it is to me in the best ways.

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    Bryan Young

    In case anyone is unfamiliar, Rashomon is a groundbreaking 1950 samurai film by Akira Kurosawa, who has always been an intense influence on Star Wars.

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    Bryan Young

    It tells the tale of a murder in a meadow from three different perspectives. The film never offers us an objective truth on what happened, merely lets the narrators be as reliable or unreliable as our point of view allows.

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    Bryan Young

    Our first glimpse of the "Rashomon" triptych in The Last Jedi comes when Luke explains that he'd sensed the Dark Side in Ben. He went to confront him about it and it didn't go well. No sabers were in play. This is how Luke WISHES it would have gone, if at all.

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    Bryan Young

    The second version is from Ben's perspective. Naturally, he's the hero of this version. Luke practically has Sith eyes and his green lightsaber is almost a sickly yellow. From Ben's POV, Luke arrives to murder him absolutely. There is no question in his mind.

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    Bryan Young

    And then, the third time, we're given Luke's version. A blend of the two with plenty of shades of gray. And, for my money, the version of the story I believe. And it's the one I think truest to Luke's character, too.

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    Bryan Young

    Luke goes to check on Ben and the darkness growing inside him. This wellness check is already filled with self-doubt. Luke, like every creative or heroic person I've ever known, suffers from impostor syndrome. Just like Obi-Wan's.

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    Bryan Young

    And here he sees a darkness greater than anything he could have ever imagined. And a future where all of his loved ones are killed and the Jedi order he cared about burned to the ground. What happened the last time he was confronted with an image of this?

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    Bryan Young

    The last time this happened, he was in the Death Star Throne Room and Vader taunted him with this vision of the future and he lost control. He ignited his saber out of instinct and fought. With rage and anger.

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    Bryan Young

    But he pulled himself back from doing the thing he swore he wouldn't do: kill his own father. Then he tosses his lightsaber and says, essentially, "kill me if you have to, but I'll die like a Jedi."

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    Bryan Young

    Now, he goes to Ben's hut and sees that future all over again. And, as before, his saber ignites. And this is startling to him. He's instantly ashamed of himself and must deal with the consequence of that split-second consideration. We know he'd NEVER kill his nephew. Ben doesn't

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    Bryan Young

    Some have said that Luke wouldn't consider this again, but facing the Dark side of yourself isn't a "one time and it's over thing." It's a constant. We learn and we grow and we constantly have to reevaluate that.

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  3. And here's where Luke decided it was ultimately the right thing for the Galaxy to end the Jedi and quit the Force. Because these cycles of violence will happen between good and evil jockeying for power. And the constant in Luke's view was the Jedi.

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    Bryan Young

    Their failure. Hypocrisy. Hubris.

    If they were off the playing field, there would be no Vader. Or Kylo Ren. So instead of doubling down and training NEW Jedi to take down his nephew, he simply ends the cycle.

    VIolence begets violence and Luke would no longer participate.

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    Bryan Young

    And that's why I love the end of the movie. Luke finally learned from his mistakes. He could stick to his non-violence, but still set an example that would ignite the galaxy. Which is why his saber never touches Ben's during the fight. It's 100% evasion.

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    Bryan Young

    He had lost the understanding of the value of the Legend of Luke Skywalker, but Rey helped him find it again. And he could once again believe in himself. And the Jedi.

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    Bryan Young

  4. From my perspective, given Luke's inaction in TFA, this is the ONLY thing that could have been done with him. And why I've embraced the arc so much. I love it.

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    Bryan Young

    You don't have to like it, but this thread is the Luke I saw up there. And when he has his heroic moment on Crait and binary sunset... It's a perfect capstone to his character, given the turn the universe and canon took.

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    Bryan Young

  5. This is exactly how I see it, thank you for articulating my thoughts.

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    SnokesLegs

    Snoke's Legs (Kanan's Eyes, Sheev forehead)

  6. This is a great summation of Luke’s journey and I hope more people come around to it in the years to come. I also agree that Rian Johnson did the best he could given where JJ left off with Luke in hiding.

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  8. Completely agreed. It isn't a coincidence that the mechanical hand is the one that ignites the lightsaber. With the set up in TFA, I'm not sure how else we could go forward.

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    LitheraPrime

    Katrina Lehto

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  10. This is excellent. Gives a much deeper understanding of what was going on with Luke. And seeing as it's been too long since I've seen the og trilogy I was definitely missing some of these pieces.

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  11. And for those reading the thread, if you want to listen to me (and @ThaMike and @surliestgirl) talk about Star Wars like this, listen to @FullOfSith. The only reason I'm tweeting instead of talking is that I'm recovering from a tonsillectomy.

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    Bryan Young

  12. The binary sunset perfectly underscored to me how Luke finally came full circle and rediscovered his earliest virtue (which he convinced himself was only a flaw) - his ability to yearn for a better future.

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    MrIanMacIntyre

    Ian MacIntyre

  13. The differences between the 3 tellings are so fascinating to me.

    1st - Luke and Ben have no lightsabers
    2nd - Luke's dark eyes/expression and Ben's look of desperation
    3rd - Luke's moment of contemplation and Ben's aggressive defense

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    CanonChronicler

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  15. I have to admit I never liked the idea of Luke running away, but given what was set up in TFA, I feel like @rianjohnson made it make sense for me and gave Luke a great send off.

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    Kwehttamm

    Matt Kloberdanz

  16. This reminded me of the Dagobah cave, as well. Luke was doomed the moment he chose to bring his lightsaber in there with him.

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    BarbotRobot

    Matt Barbounty hunting is a complicated profession

  17. Quick question: what was the reason you feel Luke regained his faith/belief in the Jedi? Despite his feeling that all of the galaxy's problems stem from them I.e someone turning dark (violence begets violence as you said). Was it that failure is the greatest teacher as Yoda said

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    AVSmovies

    AVSmovies

  18. I think part of it was Yoda, yes. I think part of it was reaching out to Leia. I think he might have been coming back down to train Rey after reaching out to Leia, but found her with Ben instead.

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    Bryan Young

  19. But even with reaching out to Leia, at that point he still felt that the galaxy's problems stemmed from the Jedi?

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    AVSmovies

    AVSmovies

  20. But he was on a path to pass on their mistakes unfixed. Rey doesn't have to make those mistakes. And can fix them.

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    Bryan Young

  21. I think Yoda summed it up best: that Rey saw the split-second mistake Luke had made with Ben but that all the failures were the greatest teacher & Luke only then realised that Rey could continue the Jedi in a way that prevented those mistakes from being made

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    AVSmovies

    AVSmovies

    Also I feel 9 will end with the light and dark coming together to form eternal balance, that way no mistake is ever made again with their being too much light or dark

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    AVSmovies

  22. It's like the Jedi equivalent of a celebrity deciding to quit social media due to the unforseen negative consequences.

    (Ha! I kill me. Also, you're right. Good thread.)

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    nickarkis

    Nicholas Arkis

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  24. We win by saving what we love. It's mirrored in how Rey arrives and uses her mighty Force powers to ... let her friends escape.

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  26. I'm a little baffled by that. I didn't see bloat. Where did you see any? Because everything folded in on itself and blended themes beautifully.

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    Bryan Young

  27. This is the most flawed of all the tweets. He stepped away and yet the First Order and Kylo/Snope flourished. There are arguably no Jedi in the next film yet i guarantee you there will be by its ending, because with or without Jedi the Sith will always exist.

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  29. If this is the case, then it’s even more galling that Snoke is not explained, evil force wielder comes out of nowhere, no Jedi needed.

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    IcarusDei

    Constantine ☦️

  30. Well, just on Canto Bight alone (which I loved): It complicates the story, enhances and plays to the theme, offers us that character development, lays the groundwork for the ending (not just the END ending), but for everything Holdo has to do AND it is the point of Poe's arc, too

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    Bryan Young

    Galling? We'll get more explanation for him when needed. In the context of this story, it would have bloated the narrative and distracted from the theme and what's important.

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    Bryan Young

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  34. He couldn’t touch Ben with anything because he wasn’t there really.

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  36. I think you got the wrong lesson from the Yoda arc, friend. Yoda and the Jedi of the time thought the darkness could be extinguished from themselves. They believed themselves pure and arrogance blinded them. What Yoda learned in that arc is that, yes, that dark part of himself

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    does exist. It will never go away fully. But it does not control him. Ignoring it would only give it power. The only way to defeat the dark side is to constantly resist it. There WILL be temptation, there WILL be moments of weakness.

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    Behemous

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    But what matters isn't how much you're tempted, it's how you control it. By accepting it as a part of yourself you may find strength in denying it.

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  38. He was there enough to hand Leia an object and wink at a droid who was able to perceive him. But had he been there corporeally, he would have fought the same way.

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    Bryan Young

  39. Great thread, I like it, but let’s be clear, Rey isn’t the reason he changed his mind. R2 & the Hologram was.
    Rey was a Space UPS driver, delivering R2.

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    TheJoeSlepski

    Joe Slepski

  40. No, Rey helped him find it. Yoda helped him understand it. And that's why he references her at the end on Crait. May the Force be With You!

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    Bryan Young

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  42. He references her as the future of the Force sure, but it was clearly the Leia hologram that changed his mind. Rey just bothered him for a few days, scaring him even more.
    R2 is the hero here.

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    TheJoeSlepski

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  44. "Slow paced, meandering, dull chase sequences, plot contradictions, blatantly withheld info for no other reason than transparent character manipulation" "Yeah, yeah, yeah, but check out those killer THEMES"

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  46. That didn't change his mind, though. He says, "I'll give you three lessons on why the Jedi need to end." It wasn't until after his conversation with Yoda that he had faith in Rey.

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    swankmotron

    Bryan Young

    If that is seriously how you view this film, there is nothing I can do to help you. Why are you bothering arguing with people who saw it for what it was then?

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    Bryan Young

  47. That reminds me...
    where did that third lesson go?
    Cutting room floor?

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    TheJoeSlepski

    Joe Slepski

  48. I agree with your Luke take. My only disappointment with TLJ is Rey's decision not to join Ben. Everything Ben tells her in his pitch is correct (except he doesn't know how much Finn cares about her.) But even she's oblivious to that. She should have joined Ben.

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  50. It would have made for an unpredictable change in canon dogma. She's been searching for belonging and family since she appears on screen. Ben really is one of the only people who truly understand and accept her. She was ostensibly rejected by Luke. Han died.

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    TheEclectic

    Steve Mas

  51. She didn't join him because he was evil. Because he was negging her. Because his pitch was abusive. Her character arc was her feeling like she needed Han. Then Luke. Then Ben. Then realizing she didn't need anyone. Which is powerful.

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    swankmotron

    Bryan Young

  52. I could give an argument about an object that eventually dissapear. But you’re right that at least that Luke’s pacifist behaviour is what the director wants to communicate.

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    baradit

    baradit

  53. I think if “violence begets violence” were his real reason for hiding, he’d have said so. He’s hiding because, as long as he’s around, he’ll be expected to rebuild the Jedi. He’s convinced that would be a mistake. He has no qualms about helping perpetuate a war.

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    GC9X

    xerxes and/or Robbo

  54. Interesting take. I didn't feel like he was negging. I thought he was being genuine. Granted it was doused in his trademark lack of maturity.

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    TheEclectic

    Steve Mas

  55. "You're nothing. But not to me." That's a classic technique of abusers.

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    swankmotron

    Bryan Young

  56. Felt like he was saying she was nothing to underscore his point and not necessarily to put her down - for dramatic effect, but you may be right. And in lots of ways his understanding of her "nothingness" and hers as well is correct. Aside from Finn, who cares about her wellbeing?

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    Steve Mas

    I've only seen it twice and my recollection of the details may be off. Definitely subbing your pod, though. You're thread really made some revelations to me about Luke.

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    TheEclectic

    Steve Mas

  57. I think our post TLJ episodes have been pretty interesting. We've had some great discussions.

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    swankmotron

    Bryan Young

  58. You're 500% correct and yes, I love it too. Applauding every word of this thread, thank you.

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    GreyDuck

    Karel P Kerezman

  59. The embrace of non-violence by Luke is a great climax. I also think that Luke forgiving himself for his failure, and thus being able to save everyone else from theirs, is what makes his final scene so gratifying.

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    mburchett

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  60. His lightsaber doesn't touch Ben's because it can't. He's a hologram basically. Your love for the series is commendable but you're having to do a lot of work to find the good in this. Castrating Luke was just a huge undermining of the character and deeply unsatisfying to watch.

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    damianbruced

    Damian Bruce

  61. Yep. Plus he was all high on green milk, so whatcha gonna do?

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    MajorTomCom

    Tom Gregory

  62. I mean, I understand why it can be considered a 'good' plotline but it belongs to a different film, not star wars. Maybe Shawshank redemption or something.

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    damianbruced

    Damian Bruce

  63. It felt VERY Star Wars to me. Sorry your mileage varied. May the Force Be With You!

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    Bryan Young

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  66. Definitely part of it, yes. But he could have just flown there if he wanted to appear there. I think he would have fought similarly if he was corporeal there or not.

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    Bryan Young

  67. What this is telling me is that The Last Jedi didn't ruin Luke Skywalker.

    The Force Awakens did.

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    joshquixote

    RaisonDetriment

  68. I mean, if you feel like Luke was ruined, then yes. TFA made those choices you disliked inevitable. I happened to like what they gave us in TLJ and found him better, not ruined. But mileage varies. May the Force Be With You!

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    Bryan Young

  69. I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed the parallel to 30 years before, the last time Luke stood over a helpless Dark Side foe, ready to deal out death in judgment.

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    DB_Grimwalker

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  70. @Fitzchiv2018 Huh? I said Kurosawa was always a key influence. Which is true. We need some help on your reading comprehension because it made your whole flippant tweet garbage.

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    Bryan Young

  71. So what you’re saying is you’re mad your headcanon didn’t play out as the official version?

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    DB_Grimwalker

    Adamantly Tentative

  72. I am terribly weary of every single "hero" these days having to be so-called "morally grey". Dragging one of the best through the gravel and dirtying him up is hard to watch. Can't we have just one hero who's Good, pure and simple?

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    joshquixote

    RaisonDetriment

  73. Uggh these dimwits such as you making straw man arguments on why you think people disliked the movie are hilarious. It has nothing to do with fan theories and all to do with proper storytelling, coherent story for a sequel and respect for the lore, which TLJ is lacking. It sucks

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  77. So he was happy to just let the Dark Side / First Order take over? And let his sister instead fight them?

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    TonyPrintezis

    Tony Printezis

  78. There's a lovely symmetry to the first act of the Force Luke witnesses being trickery - of the Tuskens, possibly, and then definitely of the Stormtroopers - and the last thing he does being an illusion on a grand scale - again, of a bunch of Stormtroopers.

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    StoryWonker

    Joel Short

  79. Here's where I have a problem with this line of thinking. A core tenet of Luke's character is his unwillingness to give up on someone. Also, his reaction in the Throne Room was anger at the Emperor. In this story, it's fear which doesn't resonate with his character.

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    phxarchangelus

    Zachary Perschall

  80. There's a problem with this point though: Snoke. If the issue was just a fallen apprentice, this theory makes sense. But Snoke's already there (somehow). Luke walking away after failing Kylo, sure, but he also left the galaxy and friends to die at the hands of a dark side master.

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    GillianDN

    Gillian de Nooijer

  81. If the Force is life how do you quit it by going on a planet teaming with life and strong in the force? Thanks for the thoughtful tweets, not sure if I agree but I enjoyed reading your perspective a lot

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    CurrentlyNerdy

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  83. Wow. This actually changed my whole perspective of what I thought about Luke in the movie 👍

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    _Omegez_

    Just Jarrod

  84. Always felt that Luke knew Vader was right-his destiny was dark. Luke's life was doing whatever he could to suppress the inevitable. His view of the Jedi was the dark temptation is too stong. Ben confirmed that.

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    AdamMasinEsq

    Adam Masin

  85. Good work on the deconstruction, and I think also that the problem is related to TFA about Luke. And also that there is not outline for the new trilogy, so they have to impro in the way of doing the movies to see where the story goes.

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    nicopintoheck

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  86. I enjoy this Tweet both as an analysis of TLJ and Luke's character arc, but also as a potential analogy for Depression and Mental Illness.

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    superashbro86

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  88. Don't be fooled. These tweets are psychologically designed to manipulate you.

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    AmalgramVirgo

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  89. I liked the movie but I didn’t really get why Luke changed his mind. He seemed correct about ending the Jedi tbh and there wasn’t any specific detail in the story to convince him otherwise.

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  95. Great thread and insight @swankmotron u said even more than I was thinking. Now That’s how u watch a good movie, keep up the great work!

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  97. So Luke refuses to murder vader because he sensed good in him, but wants to kill a kid because he sensed bad in him? Completely contradictory to who Luke is.

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    _BonFigli

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  98. This is in-line with previous canon in Ep. III when Mace Windu says he has to kill Palpatine & in the final Clone Wars cartoon when Yoda has a force vision & says the Sith must be taken out.

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    TRONneutrino

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  99. I think it had more to do with the fact that he wasn't really there and could not make contact with his saber. To not evade would have giving away it was a projection. But I guess this won't matter since I have less than 20 followers.

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    dankourny

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  100. This argument is so stupid. For them to say they HAVE to kill the jedi + sith to create grey area characters is so ignorant. If they bothered to read the EU they would know that there is such a thing as dark jedi. Mace Windu, Quinlan Vos, etc. The ppl in charge don't know sh*t.

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    ravewithravi

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    But why did Kylo turn exactly? I believe the excuse Han gave was "There's too much vader in him." These ppl know Anakin was a once a nice guy who gradually turned to the dark side right? He didn't just wake up one day and want to kill younglings.

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    ravewithravi

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  101. It could’ve easily been explained as Snoke clouding the Force so Luke didn’t know

    Also, if Luke had been a non-glowing Force ghost the whole time it would’ve been a lot better (as in, the whole purpose of the map was not to lead to Luke but to the temple where Rey could save it)

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  106. Dude. If rey (an untrained jedi who has never wielded a lightsaber before) annihilated Kylo. How could Luke not defeat him. ZERO LOGIC.

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    ravewithravi

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  107. This is why I love the movie. Fans complain about no duel, but are forgetting that the force is very peaceful. It's a side of Star Wars we are not familiar with and it's different. Showing luke in mediation, fishing, a very tranquil way of living.

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    ScaryJBlige_

    I See Thread People

    Who's to say Luke's presence will no longer play a role in the upcoming movies? I think his impact in TLJ will resonate even stronger now.

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    ScaryJBlige_

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  108. Kylo says earlier in the film "You're not doing this, the effort would kill you." when Rey first appears to him. So, it's more that he bought them time and died as a result of using an incredibly draining force power to do it.

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  109. His saber never touched his because he wasnt there and it was an illusion. That's why his feet didn't leave red on the ground like everyone else

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  110. I was thinking something similar while watching Rogue One and looking at the gigantic Jedi statue, on it's side in ruins, on Jedha. What need would the Jedi have of such a monument? Very decadent.

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    nick_nuckle

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  111. The logic of the last two Starwars films are completely senseless I stopped wasting my time trying to rationalize it

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  114. I think the fact some took to kylo's version is a testament to how great adam's kylo is on screen - they emphatize with him more, which as a filmmaker means they did a good job avoiding making the villain 1 dimensional.

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  117. I never thought of it like that. his lightsaber throw down twice..Great thread. ❤️ Lukes entire arc.

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