1. Exquisite Tweets from @solobasssteve, @MrFurrball, @sizemore, @penfriendrocks, @simonjgray, @catnip, @garethjms, @stephenheppell, @matt_heaton

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    wow. That Pete Townsend lecture? Worse than even I imagined. Nonsensical drivel of a spectacular kind - bit.ly/tlSgYd #balls

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    solobasssteve

    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

    Townsend seems to have a grudge against iTunes (a shop) for not being a label. Yeah, & I hate HMV for their lack of an in-store bakery.

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    solobasssteve

    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

  2. @solobasssteve I listened into the 2nd half - I was willing to give it a chance but OMG, not just the content but the presentation was bad

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    MrFurrball

    Mr Furrball

  3. Pete Townsend hatin' on iTunes for not being a label is possibly the stupidest thing I've heard since... the digital economy act?

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    solobasssteve

    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

  4. @solobasssteve You may be on to something there. I'd probably set foot in HMV again if it had a Greggs at the back.

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    sizemore

    sizemore

  5. Asking rock star millionaires to understand the internet is like asking Prince Philip to help with your self assessment tax return.

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    solobasssteve

    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

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    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

    @markaudiowave completely nonsensical - why would a shop dispense career advice?? :)

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    solobasssteve

    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

  8. @solobasssteve Oh goodness. Kind of want to watch it but I know it'll make me very angry. Why does he think he knows about this stuff?

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    penfriendrocks

    Laura Kidd // Penfriend

  9. @solobasssteve - if you've not yet had the pleasure of visiting the hole that's Birmingham hmv,you'll not know how bakery deficit is good...

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    simonjgray

    simon gray

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    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

  11. @solobasssteve - though to be fair and serious, does not itunes combine the worst aspects of both a shop and a label?

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    simonjgray

    simon gray

    @solobasssteve (i confess I've not read the article in question yet)

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    simonjgray

    simon gray

  12. @simonjgray iTunes is actually a pretty good model of a physical shop online. That's a stupid concept, but it does it very well :)

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    solobasssteve

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  14. @simonjgray iTunes puts a music purchasing mechanism right in the media player most people use. that's genius.

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    solobasssteve

    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

    no idea who Pete Townsend was defending from iTunes. I do pretty well out of iTunes. I just MUCH prefer Bandcamp bit.ly/4p6Ler

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    solobasssteve

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  15. @solobasssteve What are you on about? Lars gets the internet, look how he helped Napster. ;)

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    garethjms

    Gareth J M Saundersโ„ข

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    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

  17. @solobasssteve @sizemore That could be the record store equivalent of a Starbucks in a bookstore, or a Post Office in a WHSmith.

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    garethjms

    Gareth J M Saundersโ„ข

  18. @solobasssteve - that's the good bit - but what about the manner in which it shafts the artist good and proper?

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    simonjgray

    simon gray

  19. @solobasssteve "wild west internet land" - www's only been around since 1993 - where has poor dotty old pete been?

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    stephenheppell

    prof stephen heppell

  20. @simonjgray it doesn't. we get paid. their percentage is high, but not insane. I do well out of iTunes.

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    solobasssteve

    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

  21. @solobasssteve - I think it does shaft the artist, in that the barrier to entry is high by forcing people to go through a middleman.

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    simonjgray

    simon gray

  22. @simonjgray cdbaby are a high barrier to entry?? really? That makes no sense to me... It's clumsy, but it's not shafting anyone...

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    solobasssteve

    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

  23. @garethjms @solobasssteve Easier to put music thumbdrives into the food. I'll have two Metallipasties and a Queensryche Sausage Roll please

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    sizemore

    sizemore

  24. @sizemore @garethjms you sir, are a marketing genius. I'm so doing edible thumb drives. :)

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    solobasssteve

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  25. @solobasssteve didn't read the pete t thing, but imagine any rock star who grew up with major labels prefers the good old days.

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    matt_heaton

    mattheatonmusic

  26. @solobasssteve - do cdbaby, like eg ditto, charge a monthly fee just for a presence? Why can't the artist just deal with itunes direct?

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    simonjgray

    simon gray

  27. @simonjgray cdbaby have a set up fee, then take a percentage. The 3rd party thing is cos Apple can't be bothered to deal with the admin...

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    solobasssteve

    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

    @simonjgray Apple don't understand indie. Indie anything. So they leave that bit to people who do. Use them as a buffer.

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    solobasssteve

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  28. @solobasssteve - that's what I mean by high barrier - charging just to have ones merchandise in the shop whether it sells or not.

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    simonjgray

    simon gray

  29. @simonjgray the $30 CDBaby fee is for ALL of their services. Their own shop and all the digi distro. That's INSANELY cheap.

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    solobasssteve

    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

    @simonjgray if you're not likely to make back the $30, there's no point being on iTunes. Put it on bandcamp instead. Sell to friends.

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    solobasssteve

    SoloBassSteve ๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿšต๐Ÿฟโ€โ™€๏ธ

  30. @solobasssteve - I lay in bed corrected - last time I looked into this the best option was the ditto monthly fee, which looked high...

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    simonjgray

    simon gray

    @solobasssteve ...compared to the gap which hadn't yet (at the time) filled the place of the old mp3 . com, which I did ok out of.

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    simonjgray

    simon gray